Cole Cash
Posted by Douglas Nunnally
on 12/21/2004
Interviewer's Note:
Welcome to another edition of "Wasting The Time Of..." and in this edition, I have one of the most influential wrestlers and managers of NWA Tri-State, Cole Cash!
Cole Cash is actually a past visitor of the "Wasting The Time Of..." segment as he joined us in July of this year to do an interview under his former name, Twisted Youth. Out with a back injury, Cole Cash is currently one of the most hated and feared managers of NWA Tri-State and rightfully so. Whether it is under Twisted Youth or Cole Cash, this man has the ability and passion to connect with the fans in any given scenario, whether it is in a smelly mask or a horrible hardcore match. Few wrestlers have experienced such hardships such as his injury and the horrible aftermath. Few wrestlers have experienced the passion he gets to live with each and every day. And this is what makes him great.
Despite him being on the shelf for almost six more months, I can say without any regret that Cole Cash will come back and be the breakout star of 2005. If you haven't seen his matches yet, find them. If you haven't heard his promos yet, download them. And if you haven't heard of the manager, the wrestler, or the man, just keep reading.
Douglas Nunnally: Thank you very much for letting me interview yet again, Cole, or should I say Twisted Youth?
Cole Cash: What you should say is "Thank you for once again giving me your precious and valuable time." And you should address me as "The Industry", "The Technical Masterpiece", or "The Man Who Puts Style Back in Strong Style" Cole Cash. You know as well as I do that Twisted Youth is dead and gone, along with that smelly mask and that incredibly horrid win/loss record.
Douglas Nunnally: Nice to see your arrogance is not dead as well. All right, I have to start off by asking the question everyone wants answered. I know the egotistical rant about how you became Cole Cash, but what really prompted the change from Twisted Youth to Cole Cash?
Cole Cash: Just that, my ego. For too long, I stayed behind a mask, pretending to be somebody I wasn't. A lot of me went into Twisted Youth, but a lot of me was left in the locker room, just screaming to get out. So it was a combination of not wanting to wear a smelly mask anymore, and wanting to really be myself, wanting to be the guy who I'm supposed to be.
Douglas Nunnally: So basically, you have finally done what so many people say makes a great gimmick: take yourself and turn the "volume" way up. Right?
Cole Cash: Oh, the volume is through the roof right now, ya know? This is me, this is who I am. I've always been an egotistical asshole. Some people have always liked me and some people have always hated me, but at the end of the day, every day, I know who I am and I love me for it.
Douglas Nunnally: Aw, how Disney of you. Where in the world did you come up with that piece of garbage?
Cole Cash: Well see, last night I was in bed with your mother, and...
Douglas Nunnally: Ouch. Still love yourself for taking that low blow?
Cole Cash: Oh, was that not Disney enough for ya? Did I forget to put on my big stupid black ears and play nice? I can get a little rude myself, ya know.
Douglas Nunnally: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, don't you feel a little sad that you will never be referred to as the "Anarchy Factory" anymore?
Cole Cash: Talk about ouch. No, I will not be a little sad that I will never be referred to as the Anarchy Factory ever again. It doesn't make one tear fall out of my lovely blue eyes.
Douglas Nunnally: Oh come on, it is one of the greatest monikers out there today. I would rack it up with say "The Baby Killer" Gene Snitsky.
Cole Cash: Hey, Snitsky is gold, so I'd actually appreciate being ranked with that man.
Douglas Nunnally: Well then what is the problem with your moniker?
Cole Cash: How many times do I have to tell you? Actually, you know what; I'm not going to tell you again, if you want to continue this damn interview, then you're going to have to treat me with some respect.
Douglas Nunnally: All right, I will teach you with some respect. So what is your problem with your former moniker?
Cole Cash: I'm gonna take a wild guess here, but your parents have put you up for adoption around this time every year, haven't they?
Douglas Nunnally: Hey, this interview is about you, not me.
Cole Cash: Well, in that case, I'll answer the question. No, my parents never did anything but give me everything I wanted. Unlike you, I was loved and adored.
Douglas Nunnally: Thanks. Seriously though, is there anything you are going to miss about your former gimmick?
Cole Cash: Well, seriously, I am a punk. I'm not punk in the sense that I wear the "cool" clothes and the awesome Mohawk and go around saying Simple Plan is the greatest band ever, but I'm a punk at heart. I truly do believe in anarchy, so I suppose, in a way, I'll miss the gimmick itself, but not too much, because there's still the punk attitude in Cole Cash.
Douglas Nunnally: Any reason you embrace the punk lifestyle?
Cole Cash: It's just my attitude, ya know? This is me, this is who I am. Either you like me or you can f*** off, I don't really care. I think a lot of things are wrong with this world, and I'm not too politically correct, so I'll say what's on my mind whenever I want.
Douglas Nunnally: All right, fair enough. Moving on, where in the world did you even come up with the name and gimmick for Cole Cash?
Cole Cash: Ah, I knew that was gonna come up. A lot of people hear the last name "Cash" and they instantly think I have some sort of "rich-kid" gimmick. They think I'm trying to be the next-coming of Ted DiBiase. Now, even though that would make sense, I suppose, the truth is, I'm a punk, but I'm also a comic book nerd. There's a comic out there called "Wildcats". In issue like 3, I think, one of the characters, my favorite character, Grifter's name is revealed as "Cole Cash". So, seven or eight years ago, I don't even remember, I was reading the comic and I saw the name and I knew I had to be Cole Cash.
Douglas Nunnally: So now you have to be like Shane Helms and draw inspiration from comic books?
Cole Cash: I said seven or eight years ago, so trust me, I was doing it before Shane Helms was "cool".
Douglas Nunnally: Yeah, but when Shane Helms does it, people cheer. When you do it, people jeer.
Cole Cash: Technically Shane Helms didn't do it, idiot. A writer, who is a comic book geek, in the WWE, gave him the name. And if you can recall, I don't see many people getting too excited about the Hurricane's weekly j-o-b's on H-e-a-t.
Douglas Nunnally: What's with all the hate? Can't we be peaceful at all? Or is how the crowd treats you a touchy subject?
Cole Cash: On the contrary. As I stated, if people don't like me, I don't care. I live to piss off the fans, every single show. It's my job, it's what I do, and it's what I do quite well.
Douglas Nunnally: Yet, when I bring up the crowd, you go immediately on the attack?
Cole Cash: No, when you bring up me ripping off ideas from a guy jobbing on Heat, that's when I go on the attack. I'm better than them, and I know it, so I don't take kindly to being put beneath them.
Douglas Nunnally: At least he is in WWE, where are you?
Cole Cash: I'm sitting at home, nursing an injury, just waiting for the opportunity to show the world how good I am.
Douglas Nunnally: Good topic to get on. Last we talked you were out with a huge back injury. How is your recovery coming?
Cole Cash: Smartest thing you've asked all night. My recovery is coming along, slowly but surely. I'll still be out till probably July or August, but it's giving me plenty of time to hit the gym and get in the best shape of my life.
Douglas Nunnally: How bad is your wrestling withdrawal?
Cole Cash: It's extremely frustrating. Every time I watch a match on tape or on TV and every time I'm at one of the shows Desmond's on, it drives me nuts. Professional wrestling is all I know, and it's in my blood now, so being kept from something like that is just brutal.
Douglas Nunnally: How much wrestling would you say you are watching?
Cole Cash: On an average day, I'd say six or seven hours of it is spent watching wrestling, probably more.
Douglas Nunnally: What are you mostly watching?
Cole Cash: Ring of Honor and a lot of WWE from the past few years, mainly. Tons of Benoit, Angle, HHH, CM Punk, AJ Styles, and Alex Shelley. Anything I can get my hands on really.
Douglas Nunnally: What promotion has to be your favorite to watch right now?
Cole Cash: Ring of Honor, hands down.
Douglas Nunnally: Any specific reason besides the obvious in-ring superiority?
Cole Cash: Just how they use their guys. Everybody on the roster is important in one way or the other. Even the Ring Crew Express and the Outcast Killas, who are used primarily as jobbers, are used in a way that get them over. So even if they aren't like main event players, they are still needed on the show. And anytime title matches focus on someone wanting the title, and not just because they need to put their champ over, is Grade A wrestling in my book.
Douglas Nunnally: Do I sense a strong desire to work for ROH in the future?
Cole Cash: A lot of guys' main goal in wrestling is to be in the WWE, and that is one of my goals. I'd love to one day headline Wrestlemania, and be able to hold that title up in the air, but my goal, right now, is to be in Ring of Honor. I love it; I love everything about it. Everything is important; everything in Ring of Honor means something. The fans believe in it, they believe in the workers, and the workers believe in the fans, and more importantly, the workers believe in the company.
Douglas Nunnally: If you had the chance tomorrow to open a ROH show or headline Wrestlemania and assuming you had a perfect back, which would you choose?
Cole Cash: Wow that is tough. I'd go with Ring of Honor though, for two reasons. One, I'm not in the shape that a Wrestlemania headliner has to be in, and two, there are a lot of guys out there who deserve that spot much more than I. Not to put down Ring of Honor, but it's a whole other level when you're talking about ‘Mania, I suppose.
Douglas Nunnally: Which do you think you would enjoy more? Working an ROH show or headlining ‘Mania?
Cole Cash: Damn. I can't really answer that, because it'd depend on a lot of things. Who I was working, how the match goes, how I get along with the guys in the back, just a ton of things. That's too tough to answer.
Douglas Nunnally: Fair enough. Let's shift the topic a bit. If you got a doctor's clearance tomorrow to wrestle, would you wrestle as soon as possible or still wait a little while?
Cole Cash: Well, I'd probably have to call the doctor an idiot and sue him, but no, I wouldn't wrestle. I can tell my back is not even 50 percent yet, so I wouldn't take the chance to end my career. As much as I want to wrestle, as much as it's killing me not to be able to go out there and perform, I know I have to wait.
Douglas Nunnally: How much do you want to throw "common sense" out of the window though?
Cole Cash: Pretty badly. I'd really love to just test myself, see how much pain I can take. See if I can still show people up, even at 50 percent.
Douglas Nunnally: So you got your back injury by executing what many called backstage "a picture perfect" leg drop. Do you regret doing that at all?
Cole Cash: Every single moment of my life. I regret being out there in a hardcore match, and I also regret ever getting the guy who I was in the match with over, and that's a shoot.
Douglas Nunnally: Just because of your back or for other reasons?
Cole Cash: For other reasons.
Douglas Nunnally: Care to go into them?
Cole Cash: Sure, why the hell not. The people reading this deserve a good story. My debut match, I teamed with a guy named Johnny Hard. We became really close friends after that and traveled together. For the first two years of my career, I rode with him to every show, and I really looked up to him. He was never extremely over or a big time player in Tri-State, but still, he was a hell of a nice guy, and I loved being able to share a locker room with him. Well, we had always talked about doing a feud based around hardcore, because that was his gimmick; he was a hardcore wrestler. When we finally did the feud, I made him. I'm not trying to brag, but I'm being honest, I got him over with the fans. For once, people cared when he was announced, and during my matches that he wasn't in, people would chant his name, begging for him to come out and beat my ass. I did what every heel is supposed to do, make the babyface look like a million bucks and let them beat your ass. So after I broke my back, Richard Arpin, the promoter of TriState, gave Hard some money and told him to stay in PA with me until everyone knew what was going on. Well the morning following the accident, he came in, made sure I was alright, left me $10, and left. He called a few times to check on me when I got back home, and at the next show he apologized again, even though I assured him nothing he did caused what happened. So at that show, they were doing a fund-raising type gimmick, and giving me the money to help with bills. Well, his wife was in charge of the money, and the money never showed up, and no one has heard from Johnny Hard since. He won't return calls, he won't come to shows, and he just disappeared.
Douglas Nunnally: Wow. So you regret everything with him because of that?
Cole Cash: Yeah, he preached all the time about how the boys in the back are your family; so I took what he did extremely personal, and it was definitely like getting a knife shoved in my back and twisted.
Douglas Nunnally: If you saw him today, what do you think would happen?
Cole Cash: I don't know. I definitely wouldn't want to talk to him. I'm above getting into a fistfight with him, so I'd probably just avoid him at all costs.
Douglas Nunnally: How did everyone backstage react to this injustice?
Cole Cash: A lot of guys don't really know about it. As far as they know, he's just having some personal problems right now. I'm not one to try and soak sympathy up, so I'm not gonna go around and tell all the boys about it to try and get them to blow smoke up my ass. The few people who do know feel the same as me, and Arpin took it as hard as me, because they were like brothers.
Douglas Nunnally: If you knew he was going to read this interview, is there anything you would like to tell him?
Cole Cash: No, I'll reserve it for when, and if, I do ever have to speak to him again.
Douglas Nunnally: Do you really want to speak to him ever again though?
Cole Cash: Nope, but I know it will happen. The world's too small for it not to, so I'll hold my tongue until that day comes.
Douglas Nunnally: Here's to hoping that day never does come. Shifting to a happier topic, what are you doing to keep the time while you are injured?
Cole Cash: Watching wrestling, working out, trying to learn to play a guitar, and writing a couple stories, or books, actually.
Douglas Nunnally: Stories, eh? Care to shed some light on them?
Cole Cash: Not a whole lot of light to shed. One's kind of an action story. Modern day Robin Hood type of thing, only, the guy steals from the rich to make himself richer.
Douglas Nunnally: A dream of yours?
Cole Cash: Nope, just sitting around bored one day and started writing.
Douglas Nunnally: What do you plan on doing with the stories?
Cole Cash: Who knows? I may try to turn one of them into a screenplay and sell it off.
Douglas Nunnally: As of right now, you seem to be getting a lot of momentum as Cash in NWA: Tri State. What is your take on it?
Cole Cash: I'll put it this way. If you were a fan, and I came out, and they had announced that I broke my back, wouldn't you probably feel sympathetic towards me?
Douglas Nunnally: Yes, but the fans seem to be more against you than sympathetic.
Cole Cash: Exactly. I knew when I came back the fans would want to cheer me, based on human emotion alone. I'm a heel though, so I knew that wasn't going to cut it. So in one night, I went from getting a huge face pop, to being booed like crazy, and once again, now, I'm hated. So through that hatred, every time I come out I have people cussing me, wanting to beat the hell out of me, and that's what a good heel does. So the momentum comes from the people's anger and desire to see me killed.
Douglas Nunnally: Nice. Do you like playing the heel role right now?
Cole Cash: I love it. I love being a heel, because it lets me be me. Being a face is boring, you go out, throw your arms up, shake babies, kiss hands, and it's boring. As a heel, I can say anything I want, and I can tell the ugly girl in the front row exactly how I feel about her.
Douglas Nunnally: Do you ever feel like combining both worlds?
Cole Cash: Yes, and I sort of do. I have my fair share of fans. I have the people that cheer me, because they know just how damn good I am. I'm entertaining, so of course some people are going to like me, and I appreciate them, but at the same time, I'll call them every name in the book just as fast as I will any other toothless hick that comes to a show.
Douglas Nunnally: Do you think managing scratches your wrestling itch or makes it itch even worse?
Cole Cash: It actually helps a little bit, because I get to be out there. I can do everything but wrestle, so I'm still able to get heat, still able to put things over.
Douglas Nunnally: Do you ever wish to be in the ring with them instead of on the apron or mat?
Cole Cash: Definitely. I mean, I would have no problem giving up the managing gig (laughs), because of course I'd rather be in the ring than outside.
Douglas Nunnally: How are things going in the backstage aspect of Tri-State for you?
Cole Cash: I'm beginning to have a bit more input. I'm starting to get involved more with trying to get storylines developed, and I'm really starting to become good friends a few of the guys in the back.
Douglas Nunnally: What do you think of the overall direction of Tri State at this point?
Cole Cash: Right now, we're decent, and we're a long ways away from being great. Until we start focusing on storylines and start building feuds, and building a worker, fans aren't going to become so interested that they bring new people every show. We really need to give the fans a reason to care, ya know?
Douglas Nunnally: I hear you. Can you give us some examples of this in Tri-State?
Cole Cash: Well, the best example is the current Heavyweight Title scene. At the show before last, JT Hogg said he was the number one contender, so he called out our champion, The Juggulator. The Juggulator and his tag partner, JD Escalade, jumped Hogg, and a title match was set up for the Dec.4th show. So on the Dec.4th show, the match went a few minutes, Juggs used bras knux, and JT Hogg won by DQ, and it was announced that at Christmas Chaos on Dec.26th, there would be a Heavyweight Title match, but it would be a Casket Match. Well, that's all fine and good, but all we're getting out of that is a cheap pop, so to speak. Sure, we've sparked interest, but just a dose of interest. Now, if we would of built that up over a few shows, and had JT chasing after the title and kept getting screwed, we could've really had something, but instead we blow our load all on one show.
Douglas Nunnally: What do people backstage feel about this?
Cole Cash: I'm not really sure. I don't know if they think about it as much as I do. Tri-State is kind of my home, though, in a way. Besides Rocky Reynolds, I've been in the company the longest, so I've literally grown up in this business as a member of Tri-State. I think I might have more of an interest in it.
Douglas Nunnally: So do you look at yourself as a locker room leader?
Cole Cash: No, not at all. We're all a pretty close group, so there's no need for a leader, really.
Douglas Nunnally: With your injury hindering from perfecting your wrestling skill, do you feel like it is the perfect opportunity to hone your crowd and mike skills?
Cole Cash: Oh, definitely. That's exactly what I'm doing too, but even with my back in the condition it's in, I can still mat wrestle. I've been doing a ton of mat work as of late with Vance and some other guys, just to improve my overall chain skills.
Douglas Nunnally: Do you expect to be more mat based when you return?
Cole Cash: Yes, you won't see anymore bleacher dives from me, and you won't see any hardcore unless there's meaning behind it. As I said before, I'm going to put style back into strong style, and I'm going to have a more mat based style.
Douglas Nunnally: How do you feel your mike and crowd skills are coming?
Cole Cash: Well, I'm pretty damn hated (laughs), so I think my crowd skills are going good. My mike skills, I think they're good, but could be better. I haven't had anything to really come from the heart with as of yet, though, so until that happens, I won't know for sure how good I am.
Douglas Nunnally: Do you think by the time you come back, both of those skills will be at their peak with you?
Cole Cash: I hope so. I mean, that's the plan. When I come back, I plan on making a name for myself, not just in Tri-State, but everywhere possible.
Douglas Nunnally: We keep talking about when you come back. When you finally do, what is going to be your first goal?
Cole Cash: The NWA Tri-State Heavyweight Title, plain and simple.
Douglas Nunnally: After that? Or are you just going to take things step by step?
Cole Cash: Yeah, it will pretty much be step by step. I'd really like to work a ROH show, and if TNA is still around, I'd love to work a dark match for them.
Douglas Nunnally: Any plans to fix that win-loss record?
Cole Cash: Need you even ask, man? I can guarantee you that 2005 will be my year, even if I do start a little late on it.
Douglas Nunnally: How much do you hate me now for bringing that up?
Cole Cash: You know that feeling you get when your sock isn't on perfect? That really uncomfortable, aggravating feeling?
Douglas Nunnally: Yeah.
Cole Cash: Well you're a sock with a hole in it.
Douglas Nunnally: Damn, that's cold.
Cole Cash: You'll get over it, I'm sure.
Douglas Nunnally: I understand that you and fellow wrestler Vance Desmond may be starting up a promotion soon. Any thing you can tell us about that?
Cole Cash: No, nothing at this time. All I can say is that it will be a workers promotion. You'll definitely earn your pay; I'll put it that way.
Douglas Nunnally: Who are you thinking about grabbing to work in your promotion?
Cole Cash: Off the top of my head. JD Escalade, Dorian Rhodes, Juggulator, Aaron Draven, Wicked, Zac Vincent, Mister X, Ace Prime, Raw Talent, Eddie Insane, & Kano. And of course Vance and myself. Mainly a lot of guys from this are who I know will bust their ass.
Douglas Nunnally: How close would you say you are with Vance Desmond?
Cole Cash: He's my best friend in and out of the business. As everyone will tell you, you don't have many real friends in this business, but Vance is like my brother, and I'd do damn near anything for the guy.
Douglas Nunnally: Since the bad situation with Johnny Hard, do you feel like you appreciate Vance more?
Cole Cash: Me and Vance have been pretty close ever since we met really, so he was always above Hard in my view, so not really. I'd do anything for him, he'd do anything for me...the appreciation is at its peak and it's been that way for a while.
Douglas Nunnally: What was it like seeing your best friend in wrestling working against Abyss in NWA-TNA?
Cole Cash: Well I was sitting front row for that one, and it was really damn cool, but at the same time, I knew it was gonna be a two minute squash, so it was frustrating at the same time. It's like, "Damn it, what would be the harm in having him get over just a little bit?"
Douglas Nunnally: Is their any resentment or jealously in the fact that he got to the "big times" first?
Cole Cash: None whatsoever. He's busted his ass the same way I have, he deserves everything he's getting. He deserved Canada, he deserved TNA, and he deserves any other great moment in his life.
Douglas Nunnally: What was your opinion from your moments with TNA?
Cole Cash: They are definitely an underdog clawing and scraping their way to the top. I don't know if they'll ever reach that spot, but they're damn sure trying. All the guys were real cool as well, no egos backstage, besides Kid Kash. Everyone else was great and real down to earth.
Douglas Nunnally: Care to elaborate on that Kid Kash remark?
Cole Cash: Well, Kid Kash is an asshole. He worked a Tri-State show and chopped the shit out of Rocky Reynolds, because he was young. Rocky definitely should've fought back though, so I don't see that as much of a blemish on Kash. He was trained by Hamrick and someone else, I believe, so he had that southern style beat into him. I seriously doubt he had an easy time coming up, so I think he's just trying to dish out what he got. Backstage he was very quiet and standoff-ish, and even when we were at the entrance to the sound stage, he acted like a dick to the security woman. Plus his last name is Kash, mine's Cash...shit's gonna go down. (Laughs)
Douglas Nunnally: How does TNA compare to Tri-State and other promotions you have worked for?
Cole Cash: That's not really a fair question. TNA is a national show on PPV with a professional crew. It'd be like comparing Billy Bob's Burger Barn to a McDonalds.
Douglas Nunnally: Our past two interviews have been regarded as some of the most entertaining and hilarious "shoot" interviews in a long time. How do you feel this one has matched up?
Cole Cash: Well people knew I could make you look like an idiot, people knew I was funny, people even knew I enjoyed the occasional midget with a mask match, but now, people know I have a sensitive side, and more importantly, they know that if they make fun of that sensitive side, I can beat the shit out of them.
Douglas Nunnally: All right, you are walking down the aisle managing someone. What is the big thought ringing in your head?
Cole Cash: "Jesus Christ man! Try and get yourself over just a little bit!"
Douglas Nunnally: What has got to be the oddest thing you have ever thought of while walking down the aisle?
Cole Cash: I don't know if I've ever had any weird thoughts, but we have some fans that we refer to as the "backrake marks", for obvious reasons, and when me and Vance were coming out for his match not too long ago, they chanted ‘YOU SCREWED BRET', outta nowhere. It was definitely the weirdest thing I've heard during a show so far.
Douglas Nunnally: How much did that freak you out going down the aisle?
Cole Cash: Well, Vance was in the ring getting ready to lock up, and I was standing at ringside running my mouth and we both stopped what we were doing and gave them the weirdest looks ever. (Laughs)
Douglas Nunnally: In our first encounter, you spoke nothing but good things about TheWrestlingVoice.com. Have any of your feelings changed since then?
Cole Cash: The site sucks and it should be burnt up alongside Michael Jackson. No, seriously, the site is still great, and it allowed to me to read the TNA results as it happened. Plus, that Douglas Nunnally guy wrote a terrific article on his passion for wrestling not too long ago.
Douglas Nunnally: Wow, you said something nice about me. Got to be a first, huh?
Cole Cash: And a last, douchebag.
Douglas Nunnally: I love ya too. So what are you plans to do after I stop wasting your time?
Cole Cash: Well seeing as how I haven't slept in 27 hours, I'm probably going to go pass out.
Douglas Nunnally: Anything else you want to say or touch down? Anyone to give a shout out too?
Cole Cash: I'd like to give a shout out to the E3 boys and Dorian Rhodes in Pennsylvania, JD Escalade and the Juggulator, Vance Desmond of course, our ring announcer Sir Owen, and last, but not least, Flash Fury. Flash is a fellow Indy worker who was working a piece of shit by the name of Tommy Chill and he took a Chokeslam, and Chill held on so he couldn't tuck his chin and the back of Flash's head was shoved into the mat, and he finished the match, but as soon as he got to the back he collapsed. He was life-flighted and had emergency brain surgery. Thank God, he's up and moving right now and is doing fine, but everyone keep him in your prayers and wish him a speedy recovery and hopefully, one day he'll be back in the ring. I've had the honor to work him, and he's a fantastic worker and the nicest human being you'll ever meet.
Douglas Nunnally: I know he'll be in my thoughts. Thank you again for taking to do this excellent interview, Cole.
Cole Cash: Yeah, thanks again for having me and I hope the fans enjoy this one as much as the first.
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